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Dario Nardi recently published a book called Neuroscience of Personality. It contains his insights based on put a 20 sensor EEG on 60 college students of various types, and then having them perform various activities.
Since it includes both qualitative and quantitive research results, it's probably not definitive proof of type or type dynamics. Still, I think his approach is interesting and his book helps shed light on how type relates to activity in the neocortex.
Neocortex Brain Regions and Skillsets:
Detail under the spoiler:
Nardi used a 20 sensor EEG, with sensors placed thusly:
Note that A1, A2, and FZ, CZ, PZ were not used. His use of EEG has a number of inherent limitations, including not being able to sense deeper regions of the brain (where a lot of fundamental physical and emotional processing happens). His summation of the regions of the neocortex was:
Fp1 "Chief Judge"
Helps us decide quickly and quickly, and explain our reasoning. Helps us ignore unwanted, negative ideas and feedback.
Fp2 "Process Manager"
Broadly, tracks whether we are at the beginning, middle, or end of a task. Helps regulate our emotions while processing negative, depressing or disruptive data.
F7 "Imaginative Mimic"
Home of the "mirror neurons." Works as a kind of mental holodeck, where we play out scenarios in an imaginative context.
F8 "Grounded Believer"
Gets active when you say what's important to you in life. Helps guide our speech and recall detail about the things we consider important. Ignores context, so provides cross-contextual beliefs and details.
(Side note: autistic people show low F7 and high F8)
F3 "Deductive Analyst"
Gets active when we follow a branching logical structure or chain of reasoning towards a conclusion. Requires thinking in words or symbols. Most people who less activity here than in most regions.
F4 Expert Classifier
Gets active when we classify and define concepts. For example, is a dolphin a fish or mammal? Like F3, underutilized by most people. Requires domain expertise to build up accurate categories.
T3 Precise Speaker
This region handles words, both yours and those spoken by others. It's also used when performing tasks we've learned to do by speaking. If you talk to yourself while doing thinking (solving math problems, etc), you are likely using this region.
Some people don't use this region much, but instead may think in symbols, pictures, etc.
T4 Intuitive Listener
This region handles tone of voice and other affective qualities of sound and voice. Also home to irritation and hostility.
C3 Factual Storekeeper
C4 Flowing Artist
The mirror image of C3 in some ways, but gets activated when we recall the most beautiful place we have ever visited. Home to fluid body motion and affect. This region is entirely nonverbal.
T5 Sensitive Mediator
Like F7, this region contains "mirror neurons." When we use this region, we focus on others' judgments regarding the appropriateness of our behavior. This region actively encourages us to change out behavior by providing feelings of embarrassment and possibly shame. Can also be activated when we wonder what others are thinking of us.
T6 Purposeful Futurist
This region is highly future oriented and relational. unless F7, is not "as-if" oriented, but aids in serious predictions of what will occur in reality. Holistic and weighs many abstract spatial relationships at once. Entirely nonverbal, so offerings seem obvious or mysterious. Also activated when we consider symbolic meaning.
C3 Tactical Navigator
This region is the seat of the physical sense of self in the environment. It helps us integrate visual and kinesthetic cues to guide how me move our bodies. The better this region works, the faster we integrate a multitude of visual and kinesthetic inputs in order to act with rapid precision.
P4 Strategic Gamer
This region helps us grapple highly complex programs in a comprehensive, strategic way that simultaneously considers numerous risks, uncertainties, rewards and outcomes. Helps us weigh many pros and cons at once to arrive at intuitive solutions. Associated with skillful math performance.
O1 Visual Engineer
People who rely on this region are natural engineers and architects, able to mentally rotate objects, follow charts and diagrams with ease, and project how building element will fit together in their mind's eye. This region can also compensate for or mimic deductive reasoning, by visualizing tree structures or Venn diagrams.
O2 Abstract Impressionist
Like O1, this region is incredibly visual. Unlike O1, it is imprecise and holistic. It concerns itself with visual themes: the various inter-relationships of elements that convey an image's overall balance and meaning. We may use this region to react quickly to a person or place, detect ugly or good design, or appreciate visual art.
Summary:
Fp1 Chief Judge: Focus on explaining, making decisions, noting errors, and screening out distracting information.
Fp2 Process Manager: Focus on process, either step-by-step for tasks, or open ended creative brainstorming, or both.
F7 Imaginative Mimic: Mirror others' behavior, pick up skills by observing others, and make imaginative inferences.
F3 Deductive Analyst: Follow a chain of logical deductions and backtrack to correct thinking due to reasoning errors.
F4 Expert Classifier: Accurately place concepts by testing them against many categories at once to find a best-fit.
F8 Grounded Believer: Evaluate people and activities in terms of like or dislike, and/or recall details with high accuracy.
T3 Precise Speaker: Focus on content of the spoken word, attend to proper grammar, usage, enunciation and diction.
C3 Factual Storekeeper: Easily memorize and execute steps of movement (dance steps, etc.), and/or recall facts.
C4 Intuitive Listener: Focus on voice tone and other affective qualities of sound. Speak in a holistic way to influence.
T4 Flowing Artist: Draw, paint, dance or otherwise use your body in a flowing, spontaneous, and/or artistic manner.
T5 Sensitive Mediator: Attend to how others respond to you and later your behavior to get more desirable results.
P3 Tactical Navigator: Integrate physical space, motion, and visual clues to move skillfully through the environment.
P4 Strategic Gamer: Weigh many pros and cons, risks and uncertainties at once in order to finesse complex situations.
T6 Purposeful Futurist: State what will surely happen in the future, and/or apply a symbolic meaning to a situation.
O1 Visual Engineer: Mentally rotate, measure, arrange, assemble and explode objects with a focus on functionality.
O2 Abstract Impressionist: Notice holistic themes, patterns, and relationships in photos, paintings, and similar images.
Functions and Neocortex Activity:
Extraverted Sensing (Se)
Se types:
The "tennis hop" brain pattern is one in which all regions of neocortex out low amplitude and out of sync. This is an effective state that requires little energy while the shifting frequencies allow the brain to quickly direct whichever regions are needed for a surprise, incoming task.
Introverted Sensing (Si)
Si types:
So Si seems to lead to reinforcement and specialization over time. ISTJs and ISFJs are both visual (favor O1 and/or O2). ISxJs favor Fp2 over Fp1, while ESxJs do the opposite.
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne)
Ne types:
A "Christmas Tree" pattern is one in which the neocortex is active all over, each region is of high amplitude and out-of-sync with others. This pattern indicates cross-contextual thinking. This pattern is also very energy intensive, and may produce distractions and contradictions.
Introverted Intuiting (Ni)
Ni Types:
Their whole-brain, zen-like pattern occurs when all regions of the neocortex are in sync and dominated by brain waves that are medium-low frequency and very high-amplitude. Other types only show this pattern when they engage in their specific area of expertise, unlike Ni-ers, who also show it when tackling a new problem.
ENxJs usually benefit from a physical or sensory focus. NJs tend to be generalists compared to their SJs cousins.
Extraverted Thinking (Te)
Te types:
IXTJs are more visual, attentive to tone of voice, and focus on implementation detail over quick decision-making. ESTJS attend more to details, are more open to brainstorming, and listen intently to authority figures. ENTJs can enter a creative mode similar to INTJs.
Introverted Thinking (Ti)
Ti types:
INTPs are likely to quickly stop listening as they assess the relevance of what others are saying.
Extraverted Feeling (Fe)
Fe types:
ExFJs show high activity in T3, but least activity in visual regions O1 and O2. ESFJs are more left-brained, high in C3 and F7. ENFJs are might right-brained, showing high activity in F4 and T4.
Introverted Feeling
Fi types:
INFPs may get to the core of a person's psychology by listening for so long. INFPs are less likely to defend their own views or take action, though when they stop listening, region Fp1 becomes very active as they make a strong (and perhaps final) decision.
ISFPs are attentive when others withhold information (like social feedback).
Based on Nardi's experiences, he would classify the strength of each functions as:
Se: Act quickly and smoothly to handle whatever comes up in the moment.
Si: Review and practice in order to specialize and meet group needs.
Ne: Perceive and play with patterns of relationships across contexts.
Ni: Draw upon to whole brain to realize an answer to a novel problem.
Te: Manager resources efficiently to quickly decide based on evidence.
Ti: Reason multiple ways to objectively and accurately analyze problems.
Fe: Evaluate and communicate values to enhance social relationships.
Fi: Listen with your whole self to locate and support what's important.
Overall, I found the book very interesting (including much of the material not summarized above). Perhaps the biggest takeaway for me was even though types did correlate to usage levels of various brain regions, one of the biggest surprises was how different types tended to use whole-brain states. Different types using different whole-brain techniques I found interesting.
It's also fun to look at Nardio's summation of the function of the various brain regions, and compare oneself to the sample he gives of one's type (more on that later). Nardi did find that members of the same type tended to use the same brain regions (even separate from whole-brain states).
Since it includes both qualitative and quantitive research results, it's probably not definitive proof of type or type dynamics. Still, I think his approach is interesting and his book helps shed light on how type relates to activity in the neocortex.
Neocortex Brain Regions and Skillsets:
Detail under the spoiler:
Nardi used a 20 sensor EEG, with sensors placed thusly:

Note that A1, A2, and FZ, CZ, PZ were not used. His use of EEG has a number of inherent limitations, including not being able to sense deeper regions of the brain (where a lot of fundamental physical and emotional processing happens). His summation of the regions of the neocortex was:
Fp1 "Chief Judge"
- Provide a reason
- Decide between options
- Detect an error
Helps us decide quickly and quickly, and explain our reasoning. Helps us ignore unwanted, negative ideas and feedback.
Fp2 "Process Manager"
- Notice where you are in a task
- Perceive that you are done
- Consider a new or unpleasant idea.
Broadly, tracks whether we are at the beginning, middle, or end of a task. Helps regulate our emotions while processing negative, depressing or disruptive data.
F7 "Imaginative Mimic"
- Infer based on context
- Imagine another place or time
- Mirror others' behavior
- Ask "maybe" and "what if"
- Mentally play out a situation.
Home of the "mirror neurons." Works as a kind of mental holodeck, where we play out scenarios in an imaginative context.
F8 "Grounded Believer"
- Recall exact, literal details
- Say a word or phrase with strong emphasis
- Identity what we believe
- Rate how much we like or dislike something
- Ignore context.
Gets active when you say what's important to you in life. Helps guide our speech and recall detail about the things we consider important. Ignores context, so provides cross-contextual beliefs and details.
(Side note: autistic people show low F7 and high F8)
F3 "Deductive Analyst"
- Make logical deductions
- Backtrack or correct your thinking due to a reasoning error
- Follow a chain of reasoning
Gets active when we follow a branching logical structure or chain of reasoning towards a conclusion. Requires thinking in words or symbols. Most people who less activity here than in most regions.
F4 Expert Classifier
- Categorize a person, place, thing, event or idea.
- Have a sense for how well a concept fits a particular category.
- Links two concepts together.
Gets active when we classify and define concepts. For example, is a dolphin a fish or mammal? Like F3, underutilized by most people. Requires domain expertise to build up accurate categories.
T3 Precise Speaker
- Speak words
- Compose complex sentences
- Attend to proper grammar and word usages.
- Listen to other people's words.
This region handles words, both yours and those spoken by others. It's also used when performing tasks we've learned to do by speaking. If you talk to yourself while doing thinking (solving math problems, etc), you are likely using this region.
Some people don't use this region much, but instead may think in symbols, pictures, etc.
T4 Intuitive Listener
- Notice someone's tone of voice
- Hear when something "resonates" or "speaks to you personally
- Feel someone is speaking in a phony or false way bu cannot say why.
- Speak with powerful affect.
This region handles tone of voice and other affective qualities of sound and voice. Also home to irritation and hostility.
C3 Factual Storekeeper
- Remember a fact.
- Retrieve a memory that contains specific information such as date or time.
- Recall a sequence of action steps.
- Prepare to move your body's right side
- Skillfully draw charts, tables, and diagrams
- Attend to sensations on the right side of your body.
C4 Flowing Artist
- Remember of beautiful place.
- Retrieve a memory based on aesthetic qualities.
- Recall whole-body affect.
- Prepare to move your body's left side.
- Skillfully draw realistic, free-hand illustrations.
- Attend to sensations on the left side of your body.
The mirror image of C3 in some ways, but gets activated when we recall the most beautiful place we have ever visited. Home to fluid body motion and affect. This region is entirely nonverbal.
T5 Sensitive Mediator
- Notice other's input about your social behavior
- Are curious what someone thinks of you
- Adjust your behavior in order to appease or conform to others' expectations
- Feel embarrassed.
Like F7, this region contains "mirror neurons." When we use this region, we focus on others' judgments regarding the appropriateness of our behavior. This region actively encourages us to change out behavior by providing feelings of embarrassment and possibly shame. Can also be activated when we wonder what others are thinking of us.
T6 Purposeful Futurist
- Say the word "will"; as in what will occur in the future.
- Imagine yourself within a complex system.
- Notice abstract spatial-structural relationships.
- Assign a symbolic meaning.
- Envision your future.
This region is highly future oriented and relational. unless F7, is not "as-if" oriented, but aids in serious predictions of what will occur in reality. Holistic and weighs many abstract spatial relationships at once. Entirely nonverbal, so offerings seem obvious or mysterious. Also activated when we consider symbolic meaning.
C3 Tactical Navigator
- Identify tangible objects
- Use physical and visual cues to move your body
- Attend to where you end and the rest of the world begins
- Work a problem using rote memorization
This region is the seat of the physical sense of self in the environment. It helps us integrate visual and kinesthetic cues to guide how me move our bodies. The better this region works, the faster we integrate a multitude of visual and kinesthetic inputs in order to act with rapid precision.
P4 Strategic Gamer
- Weigh numerous pros and cons
- Calculate and compare various risks versus their likely rewards
- Objectively evaluate many factors at once
- Locate and apply leverage (influence)
This region helps us grapple highly complex programs in a comprehensive, strategic way that simultaneously considers numerous risks, uncertainties, rewards and outcomes. Helps us weigh many pros and cons at once to arrive at intuitive solutions. Associated with skillful math performance.
O1 Visual Engineer
- Read a chart or diagram
- Visually disassemble an object to visualize its components and how it works.
- Visual how elements of an object will fit together to form a structure.
- Mentally rotate an object in your mind's eye
People who rely on this region are natural engineers and architects, able to mentally rotate objects, follow charts and diagrams with ease, and project how building element will fit together in their mind's eye. This region can also compensate for or mimic deductive reasoning, by visualizing tree structures or Venn diagrams.
O2 Abstract Impressionist
- View a photograph or painting
- Sense how colors, shapes, and other elements fit aesthetically.
- Notice or set the theme of an illustration or photograph
- Gain an impression of a person's character from their appearance.
Like O1, this region is incredibly visual. Unlike O1, it is imprecise and holistic. It concerns itself with visual themes: the various inter-relationships of elements that convey an image's overall balance and meaning. We may use this region to react quickly to a person or place, detect ugly or good design, or appreciate visual art.
Summary:
Fp1 Chief Judge: Focus on explaining, making decisions, noting errors, and screening out distracting information.
Fp2 Process Manager: Focus on process, either step-by-step for tasks, or open ended creative brainstorming, or both.
F7 Imaginative Mimic: Mirror others' behavior, pick up skills by observing others, and make imaginative inferences.
F3 Deductive Analyst: Follow a chain of logical deductions and backtrack to correct thinking due to reasoning errors.
F4 Expert Classifier: Accurately place concepts by testing them against many categories at once to find a best-fit.
F8 Grounded Believer: Evaluate people and activities in terms of like or dislike, and/or recall details with high accuracy.
T3 Precise Speaker: Focus on content of the spoken word, attend to proper grammar, usage, enunciation and diction.
C3 Factual Storekeeper: Easily memorize and execute steps of movement (dance steps, etc.), and/or recall facts.
C4 Intuitive Listener: Focus on voice tone and other affective qualities of sound. Speak in a holistic way to influence.
T4 Flowing Artist: Draw, paint, dance or otherwise use your body in a flowing, spontaneous, and/or artistic manner.
T5 Sensitive Mediator: Attend to how others respond to you and later your behavior to get more desirable results.
P3 Tactical Navigator: Integrate physical space, motion, and visual clues to move skillfully through the environment.
P4 Strategic Gamer: Weigh many pros and cons, risks and uncertainties at once in order to finesse complex situations.
T6 Purposeful Futurist: State what will surely happen in the future, and/or apply a symbolic meaning to a situation.
O1 Visual Engineer: Mentally rotate, measure, arrange, assemble and explode objects with a focus on functionality.
O2 Abstract Impressionist: Notice holistic themes, patterns, and relationships in photos, paintings, and similar images.
Functions and Neocortex Activity:
Extraverted Sensing (Se)
Se types:
- Show a "tennis hop" brain pattern.
- Easily go "in the zone" in a crisis situation.
- Quickly integrate body and sensory information.
- Easily bored and need external stimulation.
- Focus on literal or common interpretations.
- Favor details that are dramatic or in motion.
The "tennis hop" brain pattern is one in which all regions of neocortex out low amplitude and out of sync. This is an effective state that requires little energy while the shifting frequencies allow the brain to quickly direct whichever regions are needed for a surprise, incoming task.
Introverted Sensing (Si)
Si types:
- Brain activity reflects their background, training, and job expertise.
- Get "in the zone" when reviewing past events.
- Tend towards rote memorization, repetition, and in-depth reviews of daily events—all habits that help them burn new neural pathways.
- Good at recalling information without a context and recalling kinship data.
- Favor T5, which processes social feedback and T6, that helps us consider the future.
So Si seems to lead to reinforcement and specialization over time. ISTJs and ISFJs are both visual (favor O1 and/or O2). ISxJs favor Fp2 over Fp1, while ESxJs do the opposite.
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne)
Ne types:
- Often show a "Christmas Tree" pattern.
- Often experience creative highs.
- Provide fast, creative responses (sometimes too creative)
- Find it difficult to get "in the zone," and can do so only after practicing and internalizing an activity over weeks, months, or years.
- Use regions that support imagination.
A "Christmas Tree" pattern is one in which the neocortex is active all over, each region is of high amplitude and out-of-sync with others. This pattern indicates cross-contextual thinking. This pattern is also very energy intensive, and may produce distractions and contradictions.
Introverted Intuiting (Ni)
Ni Types:
- Show a whole brain, zen-like pattern
- Show this pattern when they attack an unfamiliar, novel pattern.
- Their zen state works best when focusing on a single question, without distraction.
- Enter the zen state when ask to envision the future.
- Usually benefit from a sensory focus
Their whole-brain, zen-like pattern occurs when all regions of the neocortex are in sync and dominated by brain waves that are medium-low frequency and very high-amplitude. Other types only show this pattern when they engage in their specific area of expertise, unlike Ni-ers, who also show it when tackling a new problem.
ENxJs usually benefit from a physical or sensory focus. NJs tend to be generalists compared to their SJs cousins.
Extraverted Thinking (Te)
Te types:
- Show most efficient use of mental energy as they rely on evidence-based decision-making.
- Rely on T3, O1, C3 and Fp1. Tend to use other areas very little, even on tasks that would normally invoke them.
- Rely on measurably sensory information
- Focus on goals and stimulated by task completion and error correction.
- Tend to move to action before accurate or what-if processing, so quick efficiency can become a pitfall.
- Show high activity in F8, which handles deeply felt personal values, often expressed negatively.
- Female Te types show more diverse brain activity and are more responsive to social feedback.
IXTJs are more visual, attentive to tone of voice, and focus on implementation detail over quick decision-making. ESTJS attend more to details, are more open to brainstorming, and listen intently to authority figures. ENTJs can enter a creative mode similar to INTJs.
Introverted Thinking (Ti)
Ti types:
- Show high use of four regions that afford complex logical reasoning: F3, F4, P3, P4
- Use F3 to linearly derive solutions. (highest for ESTPs followed by INTPs)
- Use F4 to categorize and define concepts. (highest for INTPs, followed by ESTPs)
- Use P3 to integrate visual-kinesthetic data. (highest for ISTPs then ENTPs)
- Use P4 to holistically weigh numerous pros and cons of many uncertain or risky factors. (highest for ENTPs followed by ISTPs)
- Above regions are located away from direct sensory contact, so have a "deep" or "detached" quality.
- Tend to enter a dissociated state when arguing or meeting someone new. In this state, their neocortex shuts out raw emotions in order to enjoy objectivity.
- Least interested in listening.
- Engage the above regions + Fp1 and Fp2 when examining a topic from multiple angles and integrating the angles into a coherent way.
INTPs are likely to quickly stop listening as they assess the relevance of what others are saying.
Extraverted Feeling (Fe)
Fe types:
- Focus on social responsibility.
- Stimulated by communicating their explanations and decisions.
- Use Fp1 to suppress emotional impulses from deep in the brain in favor of sophisticated cognitive responses.
- Use Fp2 less, so may sometimes suddenly switch from highly composed to very angry.
- Use F5 a lot, which helps them adjust to social feedback.
ExFJs show high activity in T3, but least activity in visual regions O1 and O2. ESFJs are more left-brained, high in C3 and F7. ENFJs are might right-brained, showing high activity in F4 and T4.
Introverted Feeling
Fi types:
- Are consummate listeners who listen in a holistic way.
- INFPs can deeply listen for up to 10 minutes at a time, ISFPs listen briefly and then move to action.
- Show high activity in T3 and T4, which handle language.
- Carefully compose their own speech, attending to both content and delivery.
- Show high activity in F8, and are stimulated by rankings of importance.
- Show the least activity in interior regions that aid logic.
- Rely on left-brained (Fp1) decision making.
INFPs may get to the core of a person's psychology by listening for so long. INFPs are less likely to defend their own views or take action, though when they stop listening, region Fp1 becomes very active as they make a strong (and perhaps final) decision.
ISFPs are attentive when others withhold information (like social feedback).
Based on Nardi's experiences, he would classify the strength of each functions as:
Se: Act quickly and smoothly to handle whatever comes up in the moment.
Si: Review and practice in order to specialize and meet group needs.
Ne: Perceive and play with patterns of relationships across contexts.
Ni: Draw upon to whole brain to realize an answer to a novel problem.
Te: Manager resources efficiently to quickly decide based on evidence.
Ti: Reason multiple ways to objectively and accurately analyze problems.
Fe: Evaluate and communicate values to enhance social relationships.
Fi: Listen with your whole self to locate and support what's important.
Overall, I found the book very interesting (including much of the material not summarized above). Perhaps the biggest takeaway for me was even though types did correlate to usage levels of various brain regions, one of the biggest surprises was how different types tended to use whole-brain states. Different types using different whole-brain techniques I found interesting.
It's also fun to look at Nardio's summation of the function of the various brain regions, and compare oneself to the sample he gives of one's type (more on that later). Nardi did find that members of the same type tended to use the same brain regions (even separate from whole-brain states).
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