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My last stage in Typology! 40Q

wolfnara

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After a year of MBTI I have almost covered everything. But I can't identify my socionics type, and I would like some opinions on what my answers show here.
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:Te:Te


:Ti:Ti



:Se: Se


:Si:Si


:Fe:Fe


:Fi: Fi


:Ne:Ne


:Ni:Ni
 

Hawthorne

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waffling between LIE-ENTj and LSE-ESTj. Leaning towards LIE.

you utilize fi in an interesting utilitarian way. what's weird is you seem to value si but devalue ne.
good job, nara, you broke the system.
 

Evo

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After a year of MBTI I have almost covered everything. But I can't identify my socionics type, and I would like some opinions on what my answers show here.
;
:Te:Te


:Ti:Ti



:Se: Se


:Si:Si


:Fe:Fe


:Fi: Fi


:Ne:Ne


:Ni:Ni

Where did you get these questions from?

utilize fi in an interesting utilitarian way.

Explain. If you don't mind.

( [MENTION=25763]Enthusiastic_Dreamer[/MENTION] , I think clair was listening to our convo last night *not to be taken literally*)
 

Dreamer

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Where did you get these questions from?



Explain. If you don't mind.

( [MENTION=25763]Enthusiastic_Dreamer[/MENTION] , I think clair was listening to our convo last night *not to be taken literally*)

No... F'n way. [MENTION=23915]Sinclair[/MENTION] literally, me and Ura were JUST talking about this. You gotta jump in on our typology/function talks sometime. They are so fun and full of abstractions :happy2:
 

wolfnara

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Where did you get these questions from?
Explain. If you don't mind.

( [MENTION=25763]Enthusiastic_Dreamer[/MENTION] , I think clair was listening to our convo last night *not to be taken literally*)
[MENTION=22291]ComeTestMe[/MENTION] I stole these questions from her thread because I thought they were efficient for a questionnaire ;)
 

Evo

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[MENTION=22291]ComeTestMe[/MENTION] I stole these questions from her thread because I thought they were efficient for a questionnaire ;)

Yes, I would consider them more insightful than some of the others I've noticed on the forum. That's why I asked.
 

Kheledon

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Strong, sophisticated Si (program--you show high confidence in your strength, here). Strong, sophisticated Te (creative--and you create solutions to problems independently). Undervalued but moderately strong Ni (Role). Fe PoLR (relatively juvenile and indulgent--you "indulge" your PoLR by watching sad movies when you're sad, and that makes you even sadder--most people love to indulge their PoLR). Weak functions, but areas where you will actively seek assistance (Ne and Fi). Se (ignored but strong--you're a natural at it, but you hardly notice it in either yourself or others). Ti (strong and undervalued).

That would be ISTp (SLI, Delta) in Socionics, and that's my best guess given your answers above.

Try this on for size: Socionics - the16types.info - ISTp The Craftsman profile by Gulenko

:shrug:
 

Hawthorne

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Explain. If you don't mind.

( [MENTION=25763]Enthusiastic_Dreamer[/MENTION] , I think clair was listening to our convo last night *not to be taken literally*)

not sure if i can...

I see morality as how an action or belief affects others, and the reasoning behind that. Some things that are considered moral e.g. Imprisonment are not technically the right thing to do, it just a necessary action.

I express sympathy through say something that I can relate to with them, trying to find a positive aspect of the situation that will bring some light.

connection seems like it's being rationalized based on contextual necessity instead of being allowed to manifest and flow on its own. i associate a tendency to validate emotions like that as Te>Fi. or fi being funneled through te.

[MENTION=25733]wolfnara[/MENTION] do you make a habit of rationalizing your emotional impulses? do you struggle to understand why/how people succumb to said emotional impulses? do you avoid acknowledging your knee-jerk emotional reactions that can't immediately be made sense of? what happens when someone calls you out on them?

No... F'n way. [MENTION=23915]Sinclair[/MENTION] literally, me and Ura were JUST talking about this. You gotta jump in on our typology/function talks sometime. They are so fun and full of abstractions :happy2:

i probably stumbled back into vent in my dreams. my phone was on the bed. right by my head. perhaps my brainwaves linked into the net and my first impulse was to find you two but when i reached out to make contact, I suddenly realized the nature of the gulf that stood between us. so i did the only thing astral-me could and found silent comfort in your digital presences which, now that I think about it, sounds kind of creepy. i apologize for my dream voyeurism.

actually, even with the voyeurism, i could easily see this plot turning into a new york times romance bestseller. it's like the notebook lakehouse but with dream IM instead of ghostly postal services and a mildly disappointing lack of keanu reeves. sandra was a'ight.
 

existence

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[MENTION=25733]wolfnara[/MENTION]

EII pretty much.

I can see where [MENTION=26269]Kheledon[/MENTION] got the idea of strong Si and Te but your FiNe idealism is there throughout the questionnaire.

Your Si to me does not seem that strong on closer look, you have some black and white statements about it even though you do show some awareness of possible Si differences too. You had some weird answers in Te block - you do show Ne ingeniousness in solving issues though. Fi and Ne answers seem more sophisticated on the whole. Ni seems to be in Vital (unconscious) track while still strong, consistent with Ni demonstrative. Fe also appears to be in Vital track, your answers remind me of another EII's Fe ignoring. Ti frustrated you, weak function of Role Ti. Se seems to only come through a strong Fi filter, I have nothing against Se PoLR for you.
 

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Err, you might be confusing PoLR for the suggestive.

I hear you. It's a pet theory of mine--not widely accepted, just a personal observation, but I know that Si is my PoLR, and I adore indulging it. It's why EIE has such a hard time kicking bad habits. It also explains why EIE wants a whole lot of physical touch and intimacy. It feels good, but we're juvenile with it. We over-indulge. I also know, from experience, that my ESI wife loves to indulge her PoLR Ne. She wanders into her "scary trees" (as she calls them, although Ne is really about possible futures) freely and with little hesitation, but she tends to be very juvenile with it--her fears for the future are seldom based upon what I would call "reality."

For what that's worth. :shrug:
 

wolfnara

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[MENTION=25733]wolfnara[/MENTION] do you make a habit of rationalizing your emotional impulses? do you struggle to understand why/how people succumb to said emotional impulses? do you avoid acknowledging your knee-jerk emotional reactions that can't immediately be made sense of? what happens when someone calls you out on them?

I'm not sure because I don't really feel emotional impulses, although I do try to analyze myself sometimes. I can't relate to strong emotional reactions or impulses, except maybe under severe stress which hasn't happened in years . Therefore people have never told me anything related to this. It does bother me when people try to get a emotional reaction from me though.


[MENTION=25733]wolfnara[/MENTION]

EII pretty much.

I can see where [MENTION=26269]Kheledon[/MENTION] got the idea of strong Si and Te but your FiNe idealism is there throughout the questionnaire.

Your Si to me does not seem that strong on closer look, you have some black and white statements about it even though you do show some awareness of possible Si differences too. You had some weird answers in Te block - you do show Ne ingeniousness in solving issues though. Fi and Ne answers seem more sophisticated on the whole. Ni seems to be in Vital (unconscious) track while still strong, consistent with Ni demonstrative. Fe also appears to be in Vital track, your answers remind me of another EII's Fe ignoring. Ti frustrated you, weak function of Role Ti. Se seems to only come through a strong Fi filter, I have nothing against Se PoLR for you.

Can I ask, how does my Si seem black and white, and how was my Te block weird? You're right about the Ti block, it was almost frustrating to answer because some of the questions seemed needless. Is it possible for an EII type to show confidence in Si questions?
 

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I hear you. It's a pet theory of mine--not widely accepted, just a personal observation, but I know that Si is my PoLR, and I adore indulging it. It's why EIE has such a hard time kicking bad habits. It also explains why EIE wants a whole lot of physical touch and intimacy. It feels good, but we're juvenile with it. We over-indulge. I also know, from experience, that my ESI wife loves to indulge her PoLR Ne. She wanders into her "scary trees" (as she calls them, although Ne is really about possible futures) freely and with little hesitation, but she tends to be very juvenile with it--her fears for the future are seldom based upon what I would call "reality."

For what that's worth. :shrug:

I don't know... I don't indulge my Ne PoLR for sure. It's true ESIs are not able to effectively ignore illogical worries. But I have yet to see an ESI that enjoyed the worries. Idk, is she a cp 6 in enneagram by any chance?

How do you know Si is your PoLR? How do you like your Ti suggestive? Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not trying to retype you, just want to hear more on this.
 

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Can I ask, how does my Si seem black and white, and how was my Te block weird? You're right about the Ti block, it was almost frustrating to answer because some of the questions seemed needless. Is it possible for an EII type to show confidence in Si questions?

Your Si wasn't always black and white, you did show some confidence which is quite possible for an emphasized Mobilizing function yes, but where I did find it a bit rigid were these places:

"Except for a person's beauty. Everyone seems to find a slim figure, or a clear complexion more beautiful than the opposite"

"We all have a different idea of who the most attractive celebrities are."

"No one has ever evaluated my skill on doing this. Except I can think of one example."

"I know I can do it better than other people, because I can make my own unique design."


As for your Te "weirdness". Your answer to the 2nd question by bringing up fair wages.

I also noted how you don't worry in the 4th question because everyone had difficulty with the task.

You did bring up a kind of ingeniousness which I could attribute to strong Ne - I find EIIs can quite well stumble upon solutions. "By doing this I actually discovered a new technique."

You did also bring up Ne in the answer to the first question "I would think qualifications are a measure of your capability, as well as realizing your talents and hobbies".


I think overall you do seem to be into the FiNe ideals. If you think this observation of mine fits you well then I see no reason for you to doubt the EII typing.
 
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