Vendrah
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I already done the search to know which kinds of job and how much this test predicts - note that the scoring of the official version is very likely different from the 'official' one that they sell (and yeah, it seems that the score calculations have issues as [MENTION=6443]Kephalos[/MENTION] pointed out) - but I will wait a little bit to post it after most people that wants to do this test on the first few weeks to do it first, so those who wants to know just keep accompanying the thread that I will post it soon about it.
I said earlier that I did expect that this test would weakly predict job performance - and I was accurate. In general, the correlations are 0.2-0.4, which is considered weak, with only very few facets getting a 0.4-0.6 correlation, which is medium. Different kinds of jobs does use different kinds of "dimensions".
Thanks!
I don't think that people have much reasons to do that in this context. What people would win lying on this specific test for this thread? I don't think anything significant at all. You could actually say what you said stronger on tests such as dark triads.
Actually, it is because of this possibility that I never ever posted cognitive abilities test, critical thinking test and IQ tests here, because I knew that either people could lie or use it against somebody on the politics section (and that could get violent), but I don't think that would be the case for this test. I had tried to find IQ threads and relate to types and enneagram here but the results were very inconsistent with what is found on literature and they were hyper-inflated. If anyone wants links for cognitive abilities and critical thinking tests on an UK percentile for free with no registration, send me a profile or a PM message and I will send the links.
Anyway, there is a correlation table with MBTI - so when I posted it, you can at least have a few idea of those who lied or badly self-reported - I didn't even checked myself if I did properly self-reported yet. Just in case you think people are lying because of higher values on Creativity & Quickness, that is already 'intuitive biased' (they have aspects of High Openness to Experience), so people being predominantly high on these here is actually unsurprising and doesn't mean people are lying, taking also into account that we are on a forum that discuss mainly typology theories - some sort of easy-loose version of discussing psychology - with people with internet access mostly coming from developed countries.
I actually agree with this.
People on these official paid versions (some people said that the official MBTI is like that - Reckful is one of them, not the only one) says that they generally are forced choice versions - you either agree or disagree, no middle term. There was even an article saying that the official MBTI did manipulated (they said it softly, but that was their point, and they almost proved they were doing that) scores to take people out of the middle - they were using functions designed for that, for example if you take something like +1 on a scale of -5 to +5 they applied a mathematical function which changes this +1 to +2, which practically switch a 60% to a 70% - this is an illustrative example, they use a more complicated function.
They do this to increase the test-retest rate and reliability, but I don't like it because I see it as an artificial way to increase reliability scores - basically, if you have a agree to disagree it takes a lot for you to change your answer after some time, yet if there are scales it is actually common to switch from the middle to mild agree or from mild agree to agree.
I said earlier that I did expect that this test would weakly predict job performance - and I was accurate. In general, the correlations are 0.2-0.4, which is considered weak, with only very few facets getting a 0.4-0.6 correlation, which is medium. Different kinds of jobs does use different kinds of "dimensions".
[MENTION=32874]Vendrah[/MENTION]:
I don't know if there's a free online version of the BFAS, but it IS in the public domain. In Colin DeYoung's academic page there's are links to the scales and a scoring key -- although I don't know how useful they can be without something to compare the scores to.
I saved the test for my use here:
Dropbox - Big Five Aspect Scales Test.pdf - Simplify your life
You're right to say that the BFAS is the Big Five with each factor divided into two facets each. There's also the Big Five Inventory that has three facets and the NEO-PI-R with six.
Thanks!
Basically, I feel like people with “good†scores in every subscale probably took the test multiple times and just posted the result that made them look good. That or they took it once and just lied.
I don't think that people have much reasons to do that in this context. What people would win lying on this specific test for this thread? I don't think anything significant at all. You could actually say what you said stronger on tests such as dark triads.
Actually, it is because of this possibility that I never ever posted cognitive abilities test, critical thinking test and IQ tests here, because I knew that either people could lie or use it against somebody on the politics section (and that could get violent), but I don't think that would be the case for this test. I had tried to find IQ threads and relate to types and enneagram here but the results were very inconsistent with what is found on literature and they were hyper-inflated. If anyone wants links for cognitive abilities and critical thinking tests on an UK percentile for free with no registration, send me a profile or a PM message and I will send the links.
Anyway, there is a correlation table with MBTI - so when I posted it, you can at least have a few idea of those who lied or badly self-reported - I didn't even checked myself if I did properly self-reported yet. Just in case you think people are lying because of higher values on Creativity & Quickness, that is already 'intuitive biased' (they have aspects of High Openness to Experience), so people being predominantly high on these here is actually unsurprising and doesn't mean people are lying, taking also into account that we are on a forum that discuss mainly typology theories - some sort of easy-loose version of discussing psychology - with people with internet access mostly coming from developed countries.
Maybe thats cynical but this test seems to be written in a way where if you are even midling in the “bad†direction thats where it scores you.
I actually agree with this.
People on these official paid versions (some people said that the official MBTI is like that - Reckful is one of them, not the only one) says that they generally are forced choice versions - you either agree or disagree, no middle term. There was even an article saying that the official MBTI did manipulated (they said it softly, but that was their point, and they almost proved they were doing that) scores to take people out of the middle - they were using functions designed for that, for example if you take something like +1 on a scale of -5 to +5 they applied a mathematical function which changes this +1 to +2, which practically switch a 60% to a 70% - this is an illustrative example, they use a more complicated function.
They do this to increase the test-retest rate and reliability, but I don't like it because I see it as an artificial way to increase reliability scores - basically, if you have a agree to disagree it takes a lot for you to change your answer after some time, yet if there are scales it is actually common to switch from the middle to mild agree or from mild agree to agree.