whateverr
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- Mar 6, 2020
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- MBTI Type
- INTJ
- Enneagram
- 8w9
- Instinctual Variant
- sp/sx
About the 1st paragraph of the quote, it could be a way. But it would still be, instead of a more "mindless gathering" approach, it's more directed to how it makes sense with your subjectiveness. Kinda like the same thing in different words. But i rather use organizing in the nomenclature because it is portrays a more clear distinction between the two in my pov.Why isn't Pe gathering collective facts/concepts, and Pi gathering facts/concepts viewed by the self? It makes no sense to stick "organising" on Pi if Pe was "gathering" (i.e. perceiving), with Je and Ji there is consistency that they are both about values/reasons (i.e. judging) with E being collective oriented and I being self-oriented.
And now I'll add what I thought. Tough competitiveness (and especially social status oriented competitiveness) is Te in mbti but Se in socionics? How the fuck does that work?
Se= Fire exists
Si= Fire burns me
E is gathering the sensory, I organizes it. Perception is not simply a "taking in the world" activity, may i add. Is also about putting what you take in into perspective.
About the second paragraph, i would advise not to correlate functions with adjectives. I find it is a common way to shoot yourself in the foot. "Competitiveness" could happen for a bunch of reasons. Don't associate it with functions. Otherwise, the next time you see a competitive guy, you will put him in a box, instead of trying to figure out why he would do such a thing. Maybe he is competitive because he hates the idea of being undervalued. That's Fe. Maybe he hates the idea of his actions not being as functions as he thought they would be (Ti). Maybe there is a secret and unconscious social status undertone to the Ti competitive. That would actually be, Ti dom with inf Fe behavior, IxTP. Look for the why in the action, not the action it self. Anyone can do anything in any situation. Yet they chose to do this. Why did they choose to act the way they did? That's where the money is. What drives them to act, instead of what the action was by itself.
Be careful with that.