Maynard James Keenan (Tool/A Perfect Circle/Puscifer)

[louiesgonnadie]

Maynard James Keenan

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Haven't seen a thread on him here, so I'm starting one. This guy is interesting.


I think he's actually an INFP. I see him typed as INTP a lot, and I can see why in some cases, but I don't see the inferior Fe in him, in fact, I see very little Fe! Based on what I've seen and heard from him I get a very inferior Te vibe: in interviews he judges human nature in a melancholy light, his sarcasm has a very biting cynic approach to it at times, sometimes he makes a few snap judgements; he accuses other bands in today's music scene having a tendency to steal from other bands, he talks about how the government never intended to educate humans since "society would be hard to control". Plus, a lot of his quotes about inspiration, and being authentic (like in this quote: "I would hope they would be our fellow artists, rather than trying to emulate or idolize clowns like us.") all point to hardcore Fi. If he had Fe, I don't think he would be really expecting or wanting anything from his fans other than just band support. The fact that he seems to create an ideal for how he wants his bands to be supported screams Fi to me.

Some more remarkable quotes:

"Yeah, because I think it's more important just to inspire people to wake up one day and pick up a book and start feeling it out for themselves."
"I'm a pessimist. But I'm a pessimist with a sense of responsibility."
When asked about how some of his fans may miss the "angry days" of Maynard leading Tool circa 90s: "The idea is, if I can't heal from my art, then how can you heal?"

As far as his enneagram goes: DEFINITELY a 5, just not sure which wing. He often seems one way or the other. Sx/sp for sure.

What do you think?

 

[Entropic]

He's such an IxFP 5. I don't think the arguments you raise towards Fi really point towards Fi though. A sense of authenticity is a 4 thing, not Fi thing. With that said, his reasoning seems very Fi-heavy.

 

[louiesgonnadie]

He's such an IxFP 5. I don't think the arguments you raise towards Fi really point towards Fi though. A sense of authenticity is a 4 thing, not Fi thing. With that said, his reasoning seems very Fi-heavy.

What makes you think he could be a sensor?

 

[Entropic]

What makes you think he could be a sensor?

The x in the IxFP clearly indicates that I think he could be either a sensor or an intuitive.

 

[louiesgonnadie]

The x in the IxFP clearly indicates that I think he could be either a sensor or an intuitive.

I meant what made you think he could possibly be one. I realized it was one way or the other. I should have been more specific.

 

[Entropic]

I meant what made you think he could possibly be one. I realized it was one way or the other. I should have been more specific.

No, the problem wasn't that your question wasn't specific enough. It was it was phrased in the entirely wrong way. You asked me as if I assumed he was a sensor, not whether I think he could be one. I think he's Fi with Ni, but I can't say if that would be tertiary or auxiliary Ni.

 

[louiesgonnadie]

Here's some old school footage from the making of "Undertow" circa 1992, Maynard showing his humorous side:

 

[louiesgonnadie]

This topic interested me again, so I thought I'd give it a bump.

 

[Azure Flame]

ENTP

He and I share a very similar history and way of thinking.

 

[Ginkgo]

Agree that he's 5. INTP or ENTP for MBTI typing. He's very detached and fairly confident expressing himself, albeit his level of privacy.

 

[louiesgonnadie]

He's very detached and fairly confident expressing himself, albeit his level of privacy.

Sure, INTP makes sense based on this, but can't an INFP do this as well, especially a head-triad one? I myself am one, and I can do this pretty well. And one thing INFPs (or any Fi-dominant type) are really good at (so I've heard) are detaching from their emotions or suppressing their emotions explaining something or going into detail about something that overwhelms them emotionally. I don't know for sure, but I get the vibe that Maynard is like this, judging from his interviews.

 

[Azure Flame]

Sure, INTP makes sense based on this, but can't an INFP do this as well, especially a head-triad one? I myself am one, and I can do this pretty well. And one thing INFPs (or any Fi-dominant type) are really good at (so I've heard) are detaching from their emotions or suppressing their emotions explaining something or going into detail about something that overwhelms them emotionally. I don't know for sure, but I get the vibe that Maynard is like this, judging from his interviews.

bolded for hilarious joke

 

[Azure Flame]

When INFP's are emotional, it clouds their judgement until I ask them questions that transfer their cognition to their temporal lobe, thus ending a recursive emotional state. They have NEVER been able to do this on their own. Even the ones I've met who are aware of typology and the inner workings of their mind.

Now if you're talking about INFJ's, who have tertiary Ti, that's another thing entirely. They're usually stuck in an Ni-Ti loop and emotion comes secondary to them once they externalize.

 

[Ginkgo]

Sure, INTP makes sense based on this, but can't an INFP do this as well, especially a head-triad one? I myself am one, and I can do this pretty well. And one thing INFPs (or any Fi-dominant type) are really good at (so I've heard) are detaching from their emotions or suppressing their emotions explaining something or going into detail about something that overwhelms them emotionally. I don't know for sure, but I get the vibe that Maynard is like this, judging from his interviews.

In theory. I see no reason for Fi>Ti, though. He just seems well versed in his particular area of interest.

 

[louiesgonnadie]

In theory. I see no reason for Fi>Ti, though. He just seems well versed in his particular area of interest.

Possibly. I'm just failing to see the Fe anywhere, though.

 

[Ginkgo]

Possibly. I'm just failing to see the Fe anywhere, though.

Whether he's INTP or INFP, that's not going to be obvious. He's a bit too mired in his work to exhibit the Fe of an ENTP.

 

[louiesgonnadie]

Whether he's INTP or INFP, that's not going to be obvious. He's a bit too mired in his work to exhibit the Fe of an ENTP.

I meant by more of an inferior Fe standpoint, I wasn't really picking up one of those vibes watching his interviews. Then again, I might not know much about it, so maybe I'm wrong.

Do you see any inferior Fe?

 

[ScottJames]

Ni primary is clear. I type him as INTJ. Could possibly be INFJ, but I'm reasonably confident in INTJ.

 

[louiesgonnadie]

GREAT INTERVIEW!!!

 

[Emotionalogic]

INTJ