This test is very rudimentary. If anyone has doubts I advice to take the standar test here.
[MENTION=18819]five sounds[/MENTION] , your results are consistent with IEE-Ne
[MENTION=10082]Starry[/MENTION] , your results could point to ILE (due to high Ti) instead of IEE
[MENTION=22178]magpie[/MENTION] , you VI ESI-Se (IMO) regardless of your result.
[MENTION=32384]Taibreah[/MENTION], with 0 in the Se result, that could point to your PoLR, and with higher Ti than Fi, that would make you LII.
[MENTION=27266]FiyaXiii[/MENTION] read up on the quadras, temperaments, and Se or Fe dual-seeking or PoLR so you can decide.
I think you meant to tag erg but you love me so you tagged meOooooooooo I feel smarter already! I've got your number [MENTION=5643]EcK[/MENTION]
thank you so much erg
I think you meant to tag erg but you love me so you tagged me
I can't wait to do the logic with you!
You see me as Se subtype over Fi subtype?
[MENTION=29951]erg[/MENTION]
I did get the LII INTj on the Socionics test that you linked. I took it a couple times, just because I wanted to be sure I didn't make a mistake when answering the questions, and it didn't change. But from what I've been reading on here is that INTj Socionics = INTP Jung/MBTI. Is that right? I also don't get what the picture selecting accomplishes in determining my type. But, I think I ended up selecting the people that were smiling the most, were outside the most, and the ones that didn't have a drink in their hands.
Sorry, but what is PoLR? Thanks for your input.![]()
Yep.
Conclusion:
Ti>Ni>Ne>Si>Te>Fi>Se>Fe
[MENTION=26684]existence[/MENTION] Any input for me when it comes to this? Stuck between LII and ILI.
Ne (24)
Ni (25)
Se (7)
Si (10)
Te (13)
Ti (16)
Fe (18)
Fi (14)
What are we? Who is going to tell us what we are?
(That Fi section was so weird to me. That was describing the most bland person in the universe I almost feel.)
edit: [MENTION=26684]existence[/MENTION] are you the expert here? Would you be willing to tell five sounds and myself our types? That would be so helpful as this has been confusing to me for the longest time - thank you.
This test is very rudimentary. If anyone has doubts I advice to take the standard test here.
[MENTION=22178]magpie[/MENTION] , you VI ESI-Se (IMO) regardless of your result.
[MENTION=32384]Taibreah[/MENTION], with 0 in the Se result, that could point to your PoLR, and with higher Ti than Fi, that would make you LII.
[MENTION=27266]FiyaXiii[/MENTION] read up on the quadras, temperaments, and Se or Fe dual-seeking or PoLR so you can decide.
I'm into Socionics a lot you could say.
Your type isn't entirely clear from the results but I wouldn't exclude EIE for you besides IEE because of how you view the Fi part and you did score a bit lower on it, as well. EIE-Ni more than EIE-Fe, maybe.
NF type is for sure though from how you come off here (besides the results themselves), a more distant third option would be IEI if EIE or IEE don't work enough.
Let me know if that helps.
As for [MENTION=18819]five sounds[/MENTION], NF again, can't say more but if the IEE self-typing works then sure these results are consistent with that.
Why?
If you can put it into words how he/she VI's as ESI-Se, it would be more helpful to see how reliable the VI is for the typing of magpie. IMO, too![]()
People shit on wikisocion all the time, and there are so many profiles?? Gulenko, Neskova, Filatova and etc. What am I supposed to look at exactly cause with Socionics there's so much reading material. I'm trying to narrow down the reading list cause I know I'll do extensive research afterwards anyways. I haven't seen the temperaments been talked about with socionics, any trusted links?
[MENTION=32384]Taibreah[/MENTION], here is an example of information that doesn't seem very accurate (or at least I've never liked them -- I think it's because mine doesn't fit, perhaps others are better. Doesn't surprise me due to the amount of mistypes, who knows who they used as example when they wrote about LIE-Ni. I'm also not the run-of-the-mill LIE-Ni); Meged and Ovcharov's subtype descriptions. I taught myself using Gulenko's, which although much shorter, they are IMO to the point and contain much less inaccurate information. Perhaps I should write my own subtype descriptions. Regardless, from the analysis you have made, it is more likely that you are LII-Ne than LII-Ti. I developed my own rules for this: LII-Ti has a flair of ST about them, while LII-Ne has a flair of NF about them. It is possible to go much deeper than this on the subtypes differences, but let's leave it at that for now.
People shit on wikisocion all the time, and there are so many profiles?? Gulenko, Neskova, Filatova and etc. What am I supposed to look at exactly cause with Socionics there's so much reading material. I'm trying to narrow down the reading list cause I know I'll do extensive research afterwards anyways. I haven't seen the temperaments been talked about with socionics, any trusted links?
I read the wikisocion that compared Ti-LII and Ne-LII, and from the information provided there I find myself relating more to the Ne subtype than the Ti subtype. If LII were the case for me that would make me LII-Ne?
Here are excerpts from the wikisocion page that I relate/don't relate to.
Ne-LII
I relate to this:
-Able to analyze specific topics in great depth. (Maybe not in great depth)
(...)
I'm not like this:
-May be a good speaker and lecturer capable of briefly and clearly conveying the material to his listeners.
(...)
Ti-LII
I'm not like this:
-Is well-versed in systems, schemes, classifications and structures. Identifies the main components and cuts off anything that is of secondary nature.
-Very straightforward in his behavior, lacks in flexibility and diplomacy in his relations. Fairly stable in his feelings and affections.
(...)
And, now that you mentioned LII-Ne has a NF flair about them makes me relieved to know that my NF identifiers are not being ignored.
Whoops existence...I forgot to thank you for this! Yah, there seemed to be a whole lotta conflict avoidance in the Fi description which was surprising to me as I personally see all of the judging functions as confrontational... It's the perceiving functions imo that don't wish to be bothered but as I type this I can't even say I understand enough about your system to know what is being weighed and separated out. I don't know shit about any of this is what I'm saying and to be completely honest...I may have some sort of unrecognized impairment that makes it impossible for me to comprehend socionics. Or I'm blocking my own understanding because I don't want to belong to any club that doesn't like ENFPs
^^but you know...that's five sound's problem and five sound's problem alone seeing how I'm EIE - Ni
Yes...I have been told this before and so *that* is familiar... EIE - Ni
Thank you so much again.
Lemme first state this: I'm a big proponent of VI as tool in determining the type of a person, however, it should never be used solely for typing; it must be used in conjunction with other available tools such as questionnaires, tests, and process of elimination of the small groups (if you do not do this you even run the risk of typing people their conflictor, since conflictors sometimes look the same in a picture). Some people do not accept VI, others do. Types that do usually value or are strong in -Ne/+Ni (these are gamma's [especially the NTs), deltas [especially the NFs), EIE's and some SLEs), which is what is used to read people and perceive patterns.
The problem is putting the these perceptions into words. The way I see is this: it is very hard to explain why a cat is a cat and not a dog. You just know that the cat is a cat, and the dog is a dog. It is perhaps possible to develop a visual guide to differentiating the types, but I'm not sure how it could be done, given the hazy nature of the intuitions involved.
Magpie, I came across a picture of you (you had an ESI-Fi typing at the time) and I thought to myself-"she resembles more the patterns I've seen of ESI-Se than the Fi subtype". How did I arrive this conclusion? I mentally put together all the images of the people I've typed ESI-Se, both in real life and celebrities, then compared your pattern to this. You can do this yourself, being most likely ESI, you should have good -Ne/+Ni. Some ESI-Fi celebrities could be (there is almost never 100% certitude especially in the typing of celebrities, never until you are able to observe some intertype relations in action) Debra Winger and Diane Lane, and some ESI-Se celebrities could be Penelope Ann Miller and Bridget Fonda. This is in regard to VI; I've seen other evidence in your writing that points to this conclusion.
There used to be more good quality resources for Socionics, like for example socionics.us , but they seem to be on an extinction event.
[MENTION=10082]Starry[/MENTION] I didn't check your results throughly enough, it is very well true as existence says that EIE is a very likely option (more than ILE). You score high on the Ti-Fe axis, with a good amount of Fi in there (which should be low in the case of ILE since it's their PoLR), with high in both Ne and Ni (demonstrative and creative of EIE respectively).
People shit on wikisocion all the time, and there are so many profiles?? Gulenko, Neskova, Filatova and etc. What am I supposed to look at exactly cause with Socionics there's so much reading material. I'm trying to narrow down the reading list cause I know I'll do extensive research afterwards anyways. I haven't seen the temperaments been talked about with socionics, any trusted links?
[MENTION=26684]existence[/MENTION] I took your advice and compared against how I related with the EII-Ne. So, it seems to be that I have more in common with EII-Ne than I don't. I'm not supposed to be identifying with every aspect of it though, right? I feel like I'm trying to narrow down the "Not like this" parts to as few as possible.
Thanks for your input on all of this. It's been very helpful. I've read a bit more on ILE and have ruled that out because, yes, I'm not an extrovert. Not even close. Heh. I just thought it was interesting that I also was able to relate to their Ne.No, of course not every word has to be true but there should be a general trend in the description (of information processing aspects, not of stereotype traits) that you should see and identify with if you are that type. I do think you related to more of the important things in that EII description than in the LII ones. Anyway, I see you are still considering ILE, well, my impression of you is more of an introvert, but sure, feel free to check out all these options to decide correctly in the end. I hope I helped a bit. Good luck![]()