What do you picture each Enneatype looking like?

[Elfboy]

3w2

3w4

 

[Elfboy]

4w3

4w5

 

[Cloud of Thunder]

[MENTION=15607]The Great One[/MENTION] [MENTION=7140]brainheart[/MENTION]

I picture 4w3 much like this

Emma Stone a 4? Cool.

 

[The Great One]

Probably because they're misinformed like you, or interpretating it as a joke. But it doesn't really matter how many people 'repped' you to be honest.

Were any of those people fours?

Oh come on people, I can name you three people that are either core 4's or have a 4w3 fix that dress like that. I am not off of my rocker with my assumptions...

Boy George (4w3)

Prince (4w3)

Lady Gaga (Either core 4w3 or has a 4w3 fix)

So yes, there is definitely a correlation between 4w3's and wearing ridiculous outfits.

 

[thoughtlost]

...uummm can he be a four too? I have a feeling he is a four, but I am not sure.

 

[Galena]

According to this thread, my look is 3w4. But it's no science.

 

[Stansmith]

4w5

 

[Stansmith]

2w3

 

[Elfboy]

Emma Stone a 4? Cool.

I think the real Emma Stone is 6w7/7w6, but I believe her character in this movie was a 4

 

[Noll]

So yes, there is definitely a correlation between 4w3's and wearing ridiculous outfits.

I always thought Lady Gaga to be 6w7 ESFP with a 3w4 fix, also keep in mind; these are celebrities - they are supposed to have something that makes them 'stand out'. You can't be serious when you imagine that non-celebrity 4w3's all act that way. I think that is more 3w4ish behaviour anyways (social-dom). But yes, admittedly - 4w3's are generally more exhibionistic than 4w5's. But it does vary, think Prince vs Morrissey. Prince is more 'stand out' and Morrissey is more 'just stylish, not TOO revolting'. I think it's because Prince is sx/so and Morrissey is sx-last (most people say he's sp/so but I'd say he's so/sp)

 

[pinkgraffiti]

I always thought Lady Gaga to be 6w7 ESFP with a 3w4 fix, also keep in mind; these are celebrities - they are supposed to have something that makes them 'stand out'. You can't be serious when you imagine that non-celebrity 4w3's all act that way. I think that is more 3w4ish behaviour anyways (social-dom). But yes, admittedly - 4w3's are generally more exhibionistic than 4w5's. But it does vary, think Prince vs Morrissey. Prince is more 'stand out' and Morrissey is more 'just stylish, not TOO revolting'. I think it's because Prince is sx/so and Morrissey is sx-last (most people say he's sp/so but I'd say he's so/sp)

just curious, what would a 4w3 sp-dom look like?

 

[Noll]

just curious, what would a 4w3 sp-dom look like?

I'm not sure, I find 4w3 sp-dom quite fascinating, they're pretty rare. But there's always Roy Orbison - 4w3 sp/so. Very charming yet reserved I think. I don't know much more about them. Unfortunately it seems as if the YouTube exemplars-pastebin has been removed, but I do remember quite a lot of fashion designers being 4w3 sp/so. Yves Saint-Laurent being one of them.

 

[Elfboy]

just curious, what would a 4w3 sp-dom look like?

Riso and Hudson refer to Sp 4 as "The Sensualist". they're the most domestic 4 and like to collect evocative things which speak to them and express something they see in themselves. typically, their homes will be filled with art pieces, clothing or miscellaneous trinkets (such as a pretty rock they found on a walk) which spoke to them on an emotional level. with the 3 wing dominant, their collection will probably run more toward that which is "tasteful" or sophisticated

in contrast, Social 4 is the 4 to whom the stereotypes apply the most. they're very much ugly duckling types and, of all the 4s, the most aware of how they don't fit in with the rest of the other ducklings (compare to a Social last 4 like OrangeAppled who couldn't give less of a shit). Sexual 4s are the counter-shame variety, tend to be very aggressive and competitive and often come off like 7w8 or 8w7.

 

[pinkgraffiti]

Riso and Hudson refer to Sp 4 as "The Sensualist". they're the most domestic 4 and like to collect evocative things which speak to them and express something they see in themselves. typically, their homes will be filled with art pieces, clothing or miscellaneous trinkets (such as a pretty rock they found on a walk) which spoke to them on an emotional level. with the 3 wing dominant, their collection will probably run more toward that which is "tasteful" or sophisticated

dude, get your head out of the books and come join us mortals. i live with a type 4w3 sp dom, she doesn't collect evocative things blah blah. actually, our house is pretty minimalistic, just essentials. i would agree with the theory that Si types tend towards external minimalist, in contrast to Se types.

also, for me insight comes from personal experience (and learning from other's personal experiences). which is why i asked this question to an enneagram type 4 person, and not you.

 

[The Great One]

I always thought Lady Gaga to be 6w7 ESFP with a 3w4 fix, also keep in mind; these are celebrities - they are supposed to have something that makes them 'stand out'. You can't be serious when you imagine that non-celebrity 4w3's all act that way. I think that is more 3w4ish behaviour anyways (social-dom). But yes, admittedly - 4w3's are generally more exhibionistic than 4w5's. But it does vary, think Prince vs Morrissey. Prince is more 'stand out' and Morrissey is more 'just stylish, not TOO revolting'. I think it's because Prince is sx/so and Morrissey is sx-last (most people say he's sp/so but I'd say he's so/sp)

Lady Gaga could very easily be a 6w7 or a 7w6. However, there is no chance in hell that she doesn't have a 4w3 fix. Her outfits are too wild for her to be a 3w4. 3w4's tend to have a more conservative style. Now some 3w4's with a strong 4 wing can take it pretty far, but she takes it way too far to be a 3w4 fixer.

 

[Elfboy]

dude, get your head out of the books and come join us mortals.

drop the attitude.

i live with a type 4w3 sp dom, she doesn't collect evocative things blah blah. actually, our house is pretty minimalistic, just essentials. i would agree with the theory that Si types tend towards external minimalist, in contrast to Se types.
also, for me insight comes from personal experience (and learning from other's personal experiences). which is why i asked this question to an enneagram type 4 person, and not you.

you asked a question on an open forum and I responded with an opinion that was based on a credible source. if you're so picky about who responds to your questions, send a PM.

*ahem*
anyway, back on topic

phobic 6w7

phobic 6w5

 

[Galena]

Riso and Hudson refer to Sp 4 as "The Sensualist". they're the most domestic 4 and like to collect evocative things which speak to them and express something they see in themselves. typically, their homes will be filled with art pieces, clothing or miscellaneous trinkets (such as a pretty rock they found on a walk) which spoke to them on an emotional level. with the 3 wing dominant, their collection will probably run more toward that which is "tasteful" or sophisticated

in contrast, Social 4 is the 4 to whom the stereotypes apply the most. they're very much ugly duckling types and, of all the 4s, the most aware of how they don't fit in with the rest of the other ducklings (compare to a Social last 4 like OrangeAppled who couldn't give less of a shit). Sexual 4s are the counter-shame variety, tend to be very aggressive and competitive and often come off like 7w8 or 8w7.

If the books do reflect mortals, I'm an sx last who in contrast gives a few more shits. Jury's out on whether they do, for now...

 

[hjgbujhghg]

4w3:

4w5:

3w4:

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But yes, admittedly - 4w3's are generally more exhibionistic than 4w5's.

I think social 4w5s can be exhibionistic with their outfits as well

 

[Noll]

I think social 4w5s can be exhibionistic with their outfits as well

Yes, but I don't think it's as common.