[Type 1] what really is enneagram 1?

[yeghor]

Conclusion: e4 doesn't always equate Fi.

Please, try to reason.
Also, you're everywhere on this forum.
N has nothing to do with this. Escape your limitations. Functions aren't an excuse for your pain or issues with people.

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[mancino]

I'll omit personal references and judgments and stick to dry logic.

both mechanisms are identical

It equates to:
Parentified child = E1 fixation

In logical terms:
Parentified child <=> E1 fixation
i.e. they're both necessary and sufficient condition one for the other. One strictly implies the other, both ways.

In order to disprove it, I just can use demonstratio ad absurdum.

First implication
Parentified child <= E1 fixation
It equates to
NOT Parentified child => NOT E1 fixation

It's easy to disprove: one just has to find counterexamples, and there are plenty. I'm sure we all know
NOT Parentified child
who indeed have
E1 fixation.
A random list from the web:

Some classic examples of type 1 personalities include Confucius, Plato, Joan of Arc, Gandhi, Pope John Paul II, Nelson Mandela, Kate Middleton, Michelle Obama, Al Gore, Hilary Clinton, Tina Fey, Katherine Hepburn, Meryl Streep, Harrison Ford and more.

Even if we don't agree on all of them, were they all parentified? A cursory look at some biographies points at that not being the case.

Second implication
Parentified child => E1 fixation
It equates to
NOT Parentified child <= NOT E1 fixation

It's also easy to disprove.
one just has to find counterexamples, and there are plenty. I'm sure we all know
NOT E1 fixation
who indeed are
Parentified child.

It's harder to come up with a list here, but suffice it to say that I know my ESFJ E2 mother-in-law.
A fictional example, as I already mentioned:

The Game (1997 film) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The main character (played by Michael Douglas) is an almost unanimous E3 on PDB

https://www.personality-database.com/profile/41498/nicholas-van-orton-the-game-1997-mbti-personality-type

but still has was parentified, he is told so at one point in the movie (he "played dad" to look after his younger brother after their father committed suicide).


TL;DR:

Some Parentified Children are E1
Some E1 were Parentified Children.
But there's plenty of PC who are not E1, and also plenty of E1 who were not PC.

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As an extra:

Parentified child = Hypersensitive intuitive child who, due to his nature, assumed the role of responsible parent/adult in the household because the parents were not responsible/adults themselves. Due to this burden, the child became hypercritical of themselves with low self esteem always striving to do the right thing like a responsible mature adult.

E1 = Gifted child who, due to his nature, assumed the role of reliable adult because the parents overburdened him and were not responsible themselves. Consequently, the child developed an overdeveloped superego and is hypercritical of themselves with low self esteem, always striving to do the right thing like a responsible mature adult.

I've bolded traits in your PC definition that do not fit with the stereotypical E1 profile, as we've already discussed here. You argue E1=Ni. I - and others - disagree.
Also, low self esteem is NOT a strait of E1, it's in the 4-5 territory; sometimes in 9 and 6. (stereotypically, I mean).
Equating low self esteem with E1 is plainly wrong, IMHO.

And gifted is not related to type. You have to specify which gifts, at the very least.
Multi-talented, for example, is E7.
Analytical is E5.
Not only, mind you.

The error is the same: you are taking anecdotal evidence and infer general rules from it. It's never that simple. Sorry.

I'm sure you know (are) the case for which they all imply one another, but it's not NECESSARILY that way.

 

[yeghor]

I'll omit personal references and judgments and stick to dry logic.


It equates to:
Parentified child = E1 fixation

In logical terms:
Parentified child <=> E1 fixation
i.e. they're both necessary and sufficient condition one for the other. One strictly implies the other, both ways.

In order to disprove it, I just can use demonstratio ad absurdum.

First implication
Parentified child <= E1 fixation
It equates to
NOT Parentified child => NOT E1 fixation

It's easy to disprove: one just has to find counterexamples, and there are plenty. I'm sure we all know
NOT Parentified child
who indeed have
E1 fixation.
A random list from the web:

Even if we don't agree on all of them, were they all parentified? A cursory look at some biographies points at that not being the case.

Second implication
Parentified child => E1 fixation
It equates to
NOT Parentified child <= NOT E1 fixation

It's also easy to disprove.
one just has to find counterexamples, and there are plenty. I'm sure we all know
NOT E1 fixation
who indeed are
Parentified child.

It's harder to come up with a list here, but suffice it to say that I know my ESFJ E2 mother-in-law.
A fictional example, as I already mentioned:

The Game (1997 film) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The main character (played by Michael Douglas) is an almost unanimous E3 on PDB

https://www.personality-database.com/profile/41498/nicholas-van-orton-the-game-1997-mbti-personality-type

but still has was parentified, he is told so at one point in the movie (he "played dad" to look after his younger brother after their father committed suicide).


TL;DR:

Some Parentified Children are E1
Some E1 were Parentified Children.
But there's plenty of PC who are not E1, and also plenty of E1 who were not PC.

______

As an extra:



I've bolded traits in your PC definition that do not fit with the stereotypical E1 profile, as we've already discussed here. You argue E1=Ni. I - and others - disagree.
Also, low self esteem is NOT a strait of E1, it's in the 4-5 territory; sometimes in 9 and 6. (stereotypically, I mean).
Equating low self esteem with E1 is plainly wrong, IMHO.

And gifted is not related to type. You have to specify which gifts, at the very least.
Multi-talented, for example, is E7.
Analytical is E5.
Not only, mind you.

The error is the same: you are taking anecdotal evidence and infer general rules from it. It's never that simple. Sorry.

I'm sure you know (are) the case for which they all imply one another, but it's not NECESSARILY that way.

You don't know right from left.

 

[The Cat]

Ah what a happy Wednesday on the forum.
Do be a lamb and try to keep it that way...
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[mancino]

You don't know right from left.

Now that's an irrefutable argument!

I had been warned about having a debate with you. It turns out the warnings were sound.

We've shared some ideas, some we agree, some we don't. From you I've learned some stuff I didn't know before, for which I thank you.

But I won't go on, sorry @yeghor.

Maybe you are right, maybe we're all just stupid dumbasses who know nothing. But still, then, what are you going to do about it?
What if you're the only person who's right on Earth? Would you like to be that guy? I certainly do not.

If you already know, then what are you doing here? Alienating the very few who are willing to listen?

I'll give you a nugget of unsolicited wisdom: we're most probably all worng, pretty much all the time.

If you think you know, you'll never learn more than what you think you know.

"The only thing that I know is that I know nothing".

I wish you the best of luck.

 

[yeghor]

Is Your Child Gifted?

Giftedness is a combination of influences coming from both genetic and environmental factors. Gifted children have advanced cognitive skills and they process information faster than their same-age peers. They pick up on clues, perceive situations, have great awareness, intense focus when self-directed, acquire language skills early, have great working memories, and love to learn new things.

The brains of gifted children tell us something about their advanced abilities. They exhibit a denser than normal network of neural connections that transfer information faster, much like cars on a superhighway. The highway is smoothed by repeated opportunities within the environment to use those neurons as often as possible. Parents who understand this advanced ability will give their children more chances to read or write or take on more difficult challenges and participate in problem-solving activities.

But gifted children are unique and develop in different ways and at different times. They may not want to read at an early age. Albert Einstein didn’t read until age seven, and he learned to speak at a late age. Parents need to observe their children to see where they might be different from other children in some significant way. It might be in some field like art or science or music. It might be in the way they communicate or show leadership.

Here are some areas where parents might be able to identify giftedness in their young children.

Advanced Verbal Abilities​

Gifted children may speak in recognizable sentences and understand them earlier than other children who typically do this at age two or later. The vocabulary of gifted children develops very quickly and language skills appear to be very sophisticated as the children approach school age.

Gifted children learn new words easily and begin to speak earlier. They use longer sentences and appropriate grammar. Many of them learn to read before entering school. They are very inquisitive and keep asking questions. Parents hear a lot of “why?” questions along the way. Gifted children can’t get enough information because they are striving for a full understanding of the things they see and hear.

Observing how a gifted child speaks can give very good clues that they are more advanced than other children. They speak in different ways to different audiences, changing their words to fit the situation. They use more mature words when speaking with adults than they would in speaking with their brothers or sisters. They pick up on nuances of speech and understand more than their parents think they do.

Cognitive Strengths and Motivational Learning​

All children are curious to some degree, wanting to know the world around them and how they fit in. This comes with time and experience. But gifted children condense the time with a higher level of motivation to learn, spurred on by their love for learning and insatiable appetite for information and explanation. They are like intellectual sponges eager to absorb all that they can.

Gifted students need little direction and little repetitive practice to learn something new. They move through material quickly. They pick up on parental directions and preferences and don’t have to be reminded to do something. They have great memories and abilities to synthesize information and apply it in different situations.

They learn new games quickly but might prefer to read more, especially if the alternative is physical exercise. The feel they can learn more from reading. But when they do play, many gifted children have advanced motor skills and can do well with puzzles, Legos, blocks, or transformer toys.

When interested in a topic, gifted children can remain focused for a long period of time, satisfying their hunger for in-depth information. They may be studying in their own preferred way rather than following a parent’s or teacher’s direction. They may resist moving on to another topic.

They may also abruptly stop what they are doing and change to another topic on their own because they are stimulated by newness and have a general interest in the world at large in all the areas of knowledge that are within their reach.

They are likely to make connections between seemingly disparate subjects. They see the bigger picture and how things relate to each other. They may ask their parents questions that are surprisingly intelligent (and for which the parents may not have answers).

Emotional Intensity, Depth, and Complexity​

Gifted children can be very emotional. They are sensitive and feel more deeply than other children. They are hard on themselves and don’t need parents or teachers to admonish them too severely when they do something wrong. They may overreact in an emotional outburst. They strive for perfection and fear failure on their own, which may lead them to withdraw from striving at all – parents can watch for this reaction at home.

Gifted children have empathy for others and have a sense of fair play. They can react emotionally if they feel they – or someone else – is being treated unfairly. They prefer and favor the company of adults or older children with whom they identify with, as well as communicate more easily with. Gifted children often try to speak as fast as they think and are cautioned to “slow down.” They can resent having to slow down in any way and can resent classmates who are too slow.

The possible disabilities noted above can also cause great distress. There are emotional attachments to all of the learning and physical impairments a gifted child may face.

Another observation that can be made at home is related to the gifted child’s love of art and nature. They love sunrise and sunset, flowers, oceans, animals, and trees. Possibly reflecting their creative talent, they tend to appreciate different forms of art like paintings, sculpture, or music.

 

[yeghor]

https://www.verywellfamily.com/characteristics-of-gifted-children-1449114​

Cognitive Traits​

When it comes to identifying gifted children, schools vary in their identification processes, but giftedness is typically reflected by a significantly higher IQ than their peers. This high IQ is demonstrated through advanced language development, abstract thinking, and advanced memory skills.

As for other cognitive characteristics, gifted children vary in their traits and abilities. For instance, some gifted children are very observant, extremely curious, and largely independent according to the National Association for Gifted Children (NAGC). Other common characteristics include being a voracious and early reader, a critical thinker, and a natural problem-solver. Some gifted kids may even have a wide variety of interests, long attention spans, and excellent reasoning skills.

To determine if your child might be gifted, think about whether your child notices things that other children, or even adults, would overlook. And if your child annoys you by constantly peppering you with questions you might have a gifted kid on your hands. Your child also may be able to quickly and easily see relationships between ideas, objects or facts, and have fluent and flexible thinking. Even being particularly skilled at solving puzzles and riddles could be a sign of giftedness.

Gifted children's thinking tends to be elaborate and original, and they learn concepts quickly and with less practice and repetition than their peers need. And, if your child has an unusual or vivid imagination that sometimes lands them in hot water, consider that another sign of giftedness.

It's important to remember, though, that not every gifted child will display these cognitive traits, especially if the gifted child also has a learning disability or is an underachiever. The only way to truly determine if your child is gifted is to measure their IQ with an experienced tester.

Social and Emotional Traits​

When it comes to giftedness, there are some misconceptions about what it means for kids socially and emotionally. In fact, research suggests that there are a number of stereotypes when it comes to giftedness that are often perpetuated by media representations causing people to believe that gifted kids struggle socially and emotionally.

For instance, a lot of people attribute negative social-emotional characteristics such as isolation, lower agreeableness, higher introversion, and neuroticism to gifted students. Most studies indicate that gifted students are similar or slightly superior to average-ability kids when it comes to social and emotional traits.

If your child is gifted, try to avoid labeling them with negative social and emotional characteristics. Instead, according to NAGC look for and nurture these characteristics in your gifted child: empathy, intuitiveness, and creativity.

Overall, some gifted children stand out from their peers by developing interests in philosophical and social issues and may exhibit deep concern about fairness and injustice. They also can be perfectionistic, have high expectations of themselves and others, and have a well-developed, if not quirky, sense of humor.

Gifted kids also tend to be intrinsically motivated, meaning they set goals and challenges for themselves rather than to get the approval of others. While they may relate well to parents, teachers, and other adults, they also question authority out of curiosity or when they believe an injustice has occurred.

Likewise, some gifted children can be sensitive, both emotionally and physically. They may cry over things that other children shrug off or complain about tags in their clothes or the seams in their socks irritating their skin.

Keep in mind, though, as you review these traits that not every gifted child will display these characteristics. So, you need to avoid labeling your child or making assumptions about their personality or temperament and look for the individual characteristics of your child.

Additional Traits​

Most gifted children enjoy learning new things. Not only do they enjoy intellectual activity but they also may display intellectual playfulness. They likely prefer books and magazines meant for older children and adopt a skeptical, critical and evaluative attitude.

Gifted children also tend to have asynchronous development, meaning they may be mentally very astute but emotionally react to situations like a child their age, or even younger, would.
The language traits of gifted children set them apart as well. They tend to have extensive vocabularies and may read earlier than their peers. Even if they read at the standard age, they tend to read rapidly and widely. And, many gifted kids also love to ask "what if" questions.

According to the NAGC, there also are a number of behavioral and affective traits that you may recognize in your child. Just remember that your child does not have to display every trait listed in order to be considered gifted. Here are some additional traits you may notice in your potentially gifted child:

• Curious
• Determined or having perseverance
• Easily frustrated
• Energetic
• Impulsive or spirited
• Spontaneous

 

[yeghor]

...
As an example I've summarized my parent's demeanor below, which might shed some light on why I am scoring very high on enneagram 1 trait.

I'd appreciate any suggestions as to what their enneagram or MBTI types might be.

Father

1. Retired sworn financial auditor, but doesn't know anything about stockmarket or financial investing
Introverted, no enthusiasm for picnics, barbecue, playing sports, dancing or exercising etc; though naturally pretty healthy yet not athletic for his age
2. Physically a bit frail, no V shape muscular body, no brawling skills
3. No practical skills at home, no repair skills, no hobbies besides watching political discussions, movies and soccer games on Tv, don't remember ever seeing him with a screwdriver, I used to want to assemble airplane models as a kid, he wouldn't appreciate it
4. Leans toward socialism and statism these days, nationalistic, not religious, and romanticizes national socialism as the solution to everything, his political understanding relies on repeating information he heard from political commentators he deems trustworthy and comes across to me a bit biased or not wholistic,
5. Picky and perfectionist about food, doesn't praise Mom for her cooking and even grumbles when he deems food was not cooked to his standards/liking, however he doesn't cook himself either
6. No technological savviness, we had a computer at home since 1995 (he was 58 by then) but he has never bothered to learn how to use it, and kept criticizing me for spending too much time on it, now he doesn't even know how to check messages on a smartphone
7. Tries to impose his ideas and preferences on me but gets angry when I don't accept them, yet stubborn about his own opinions
8. When feeling ashamed, becomes verbally aggressive and projects his shame on to me and tries to make me feel inadequate and ashamed too
9. Tries to alleviate his inferiority complexes thru bragging about his children's achievements, hence expects above average (even top) performance from us, keeps comparing us to his acquintances' children
10. Ignores or denies problems as long as he can, needs to be pushed/reminded to deal with them,
11. Not very compassionate or respectful towards others' needs and preferences, doesn't want to allow us to have our own preferences and styles, cannot be relied on for emotional support or warmth, distant and detached at home
12. Stingy with money, goes for the cheapest option and disregards the quality aspect; because he had a poor upbringing, he thinks his children shouldn't have any luxuries either
13. Easily swayed by salespersons' or his own acquintances' suggestions, susceptible to flattery
14. Doesn't believe there's something as depression
15. Tends to deny his weaknesses or illnesses but is hung up on not being as successful as his classmates/friends, compares himself to them
16. Has good handwriting, keeps criticizing me for my poor handwriting
17. No dressing style, relies on Mom to select clothing for him, a bit disorganized, Mom keeps track of his clothing and keep them organized
18. Not a romantic, doesn't celebrate Valentine's day or anniversaries or birthdays, he didn't even have any of his birthdays celebrated as a kid so we had one for him for the first time this year, he doesn't have the habit of buying others gifts to make them happy, doesn't enjoy going out for eating, doesn't feel a need to make others happy
19. He doesn't consider his children as something to be cherished, we didn't feel valued growing up for being ourselves but only when we displayed high performance at school or other competitive fields, i.e. things that he can boast about to pump up his ego

Mother

1. Housewife, enthusiastic for picnics, barbecue and other recreational activities but does not iniate herself, when barbecuing for instance she gets anxious and overcomplicates the preparations and the process and keeps taking the fun out of it and bringing the mood down, not practical or laid back about it
2. Overly anxious about what might go wrong and making a mistake, overreacts when something spills on the table or the floor, starts yelling and cussing at the perpetrator (feels like she's repeating her mother's reactions when she was a kid), when she was younger she used to slap us in the face when we got naughty as she got overloaded or anxious
3. Has tourette's tick, clears throat repeatedly when anxious
4. Not methodical in the kitchen, despite being a long-term housewife still lacks practical skills, gets confused when she breaks routine, unwilling to try new things out of fear of making mistake,
5. Wary of complex kitchen appliances, doesn't want to learn to use them out of fear of making a mistake (had a pressure cooker explode once), I try to show her new ways of doing things so that she'll gain more confidence but she doesn't integrate them into herself and becomes dependent on me to show them to her all the time or do it for her
6. Doesn't exercise and a bit overweight now, used to have a frail body, bone structure
7. Used to be afraid of going to doctor for regular checks out of fear of doctor diagnosing her with something, afraid of getting into MR machine cause some acquintances told her that it is too tight and suffocating in there
8. Keeps hanging up on the same issues, rants about past/present hurts every couple of weeks/months, never produces solutions to them or brings them to closure, stuck in a loop, needs someone else to solve her problems
9. Childish and good-natured but doesn't act her age, makes inappropriate or illogical comments from time to time, not aggressive, cannot stand her ground against her siblings in arguments, has a bit victim attitude, they don't consider her their senior
10. Cries easily when sad, affected easily about bad news or suffering of others, worries too much about other people's demise or poverty rather than focusing on her needs/problems, feels to me like some sort of means to avoid her own hurts/problems
11. Misunderstands some questions as a personal attack or criticism and answers defensively or rashly, I deliberately tease her from time to time about her kitchen skills to increase her tolerance about that but she still keeps flaring up and getting triggered, I think this is due to her mother being overcritical when she was a kid
12. Fearful of making Dad disappointed and grumpy, ends up bending over to his preferences, more yielding than Dad about her preferences
13. Used to end up making friends with overbearing/bossy/streetsmart women who were drawn to her meek nature, I guess she was dependent on them as well to get into social circles, she enjoyed going to tea parties and also hosting parties herself though she would get overanxious about guests ending up disappointed about her performance,
14. When questioned why she does something a certain way (in the kitchen or smt) her response is usually "so and so does it that way too",
15. Not very good at math but more technically savvy then Dad, can use tablet to surf the net and watch youtube. Usually watches couples' channels/videos on youtube and wish them happiness in the comments section
16. Used to criticize me for spending too much time on PC, for not going out enough or having a girlfriend, would trigger Dad against me too about those things who would then scold and shame me
17. Stingy with money for herself but generous and giving when it comes to her children, she doesn't spoil herself as much as she should
18. Doesn't practice religion though believes in God, no political affiliation but votes for centre-left parties, usually oblivious to what's going on in the country or around the world
19. Prefers complaining about problems rather than proposing or deciding on solutions for them, exaggerates problems in her mind and becomes mentally entrapped
20. More like an ambivert, can keep to herself but likes talking to vent out her ideas and frustrations though usually on one-on-one
21. No hobbies besides internet/tv and talking to relatives on phone and tending to flowers and plants at the balcony, also likes going out for shopping for clothing every once in a while just to spend time

I think:

-Mom's an xNFP, probably ENFP cause she was more confused and had a weaker sense of self than an INFP. That would also explain her Tourettes.
-Dad's an INTP though I can't understand why his logical reasoning comes so off or lacking to me or why he's so awkward with technology. I'd almost say he's an INFP if he were more emotional or artistic.

In relation to my childhood, that means Mom couldn't be relied on cause she was confused most of the time and had anxiety problems, and that Dad was detached and not compassionate, hiding in his corner to avoid problems around.

To a child that means Mom is distressed and freaks out easilty so cannot show compassion unless the child behaves, and Dad is distant and cannot show compassion unless the child outperforms peers. As both sides are Ps, they are inclined to avoid problems or sweep them under the rug rather than sorting them out so household environment is prone to chaos/conflict.

E1 child takes it on themselves to resolve the chaos and conflict, thinks or is made to think that they are responsible for it for some reason and they believe/internalize it.

 

[yeghor]

I think:

-Mom's an xNFP, probably ENFP cause she was more confused and had a weaker sense of self than an INFP. That would also explain her Tourettes.
-Dad's an INTP though I can't understand why his logical reasoning comes so off or lacking to me or why he's so awkward with technology. I'd almost say he's an INFP if he were more emotional or artistic.

In relation to my childhood, that means Mom couldn't be relied on cause she was confused most of the time and had anxiety problems, and that Dad was detached and not compassionate, hiding in his corner to avoid problems around.

To a child that means Mom is distressed and freaks out easilty so cannot show compassion unless the child behaves, and Dad is distant and cannot show compassion unless the child outperforms peers. As both sides are Ps, they are inclined to avoid problems or sweep them under the rug rather than sorting them out so household environment is prone to chaos/conflict.

E1 child takes it on themselves to resolve the chaos and conflict, thinks or is made to think that they are responsible for it for some reason and they believe/internalize it.

These descriptions seem to fit roughly. I think one of them needed to be SJ, so practical matters at home would be handled by the SJ partner. This explains well the circumstances under which parentification happens.

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[yeghor]

This also sounds possible for my father. The thing is he's not coming across as feminine in his demeanor. I wonder if he's denying his INFPness and trying to pose as an ISTJ instead to fit in with the society. As a child, he would try to imposehis choices on me when it came to clothing, life choices, hobbies and would become condescending and overreacted (like in a "I hate you, you are worthless" mannerism) when I rejected his choices.

Given my recent INTP typing in another thread for a Belgium minister, Dad looks nothing like the minister. So maybe I should go with my original typing for Dad and Mom as INFP and ENFP, respectively. As I said, Mom is less rigid than Dad in her preferences and values and more confused and prone to anxiety. Dad comes across more like a distant and self-centered person.

It needs to be mentioned that "toxicity" in the below sense is a consequence of the parents not being parented properly themselves as a kid, and a symbolism for parents having their own unresolved traumas.

Mom came from a troubled, low-income household and had to deal with an overbearing mother-in-law and 2 step children about to enter puberty from Dad's first marriage, and Dad wasn't supportive of her authority in the household and avoided problems and ran away whenever therewas conflict in the house between Mom and the his own Mother. So Mom has kept buckling under pressure and getting distressed.

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[yeghor]

I am beginning to think my siblings are:

-Stepsister 1 - ENFJ - on bad terms with dad (INFP), estranged so I don't know her that well. Her husband is probably an INTP, he likes getting lavished with free stuff and is a bit egotistical.

-Stepsister 2 - INFP - became extremely materialistic and greedy now in her 50s, also lazy and tries to manipulate others into doing her chores by feigning helplessness or by making herself absent. Overdecorates her house, turns it into a fucking museum, gets off on surrounding herself with items purchased overseas, thinks they make her special and sets her apart than others. In conversations, likes dropping the information that she's working abroad to signal to others that she's important. Dad's favorite. Cannot stay in the same place with her for long as it results in conflict. Showing signs of egotism mixed with feminism and projects her veiled misandry on me.

-Stepbrother - ISFP - expects me to respect him just because he's older without bothering to assume the role of protective/provider older brother (i.e. without giving any benefit in return), lazy and dependent on his wife to keep him organized. Fascinated with metal music and bikers. He was condescending and dismissive of me and my younger brother when we were kids and he was a teen. Wife is manipulative and controlling, probably ISTP (they remind me of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle). I cut contact with them 2 years ago as he cannot reign in his wife's manipulative actions but endorses them, they value their own needs above ours and wife uses subterfuge, which results in them taking advantage of others.

-Younger Brother - ISTJ - He's better adjusted to life than me. Likes food and spirits and going to exotic places and consuming exotic drinks so that he can brag about them to his friends and show off. Can recall things he's read easily and has good history knowledge. Gets irritated if I ask him too many hypothetical questions.

His wife is probably INFJ, she cannot fit in with the mainstream culture (i.e. sensors), believes in things like aliens and Anunnaki, fortunetelling, rituals and stuff, she likes spending time in the kitchen and cooking, is overall well-meaning and mellow. She enjoys travelling. They are having S vs N type of conflicts from time to time.

She is cold towards Stepsister 2 (INFP) cause the latter has acted a bit like an entitled sister-in-law and expected them to cater to her whims. She is also on bad terms with Stepbrother's wife (ISTP) as the latter, she says, has tried to manipulate her somehow when my younger brother and she got married. She doesn't give in the details.

As an E1, the persons I can relate the most among them are my younger brother (ISTJ) and his wife (INFJ).

I am not into mysticism as much as the younger brother's wife (INFJ) though so I wonder if it's because I am a male INFJ, or is it because I am rather an INTJ. I haven't been feeling very caring towards people lately, I prefer telling them what I think they need to hear regardless of how bad it might make them feel, cause they cannot grow if people avoid telling them the bitter truths and enable them to stay in fantasy denial land.

The thing is I thought INTJs to be smarter, as I've known lots of people smarter than I am. Either way, the number of people I can relate to keeps dwinling as I get older and I don't yearn for company any more.

 

[yeghor]

I wonder if this gent is an E1 or E9. Channel title is in Japanese, don't know what it says. He looks orderly and chilled.

旅する家の物語