yeghor
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8 = Uninhibited primal impulses = Active@Vendrah , thanks for weighing in. You are most insightful, as usual.
The first approach is this one:
So, to restate it: 8-9-1 is ACTIVE, UNCONSCIOSNESS (to inner Self) and IGNORANCE.
9 = Unaware primal impulses = Passive
1 = Suppressed/Denied primal impulses = Disowned, rather than ignorance
Introspection = "the examination or observation of one's own mental and emotional processes"Just to have a reference: this is Intuition in MBTI, as per Keirsey:
iNtuition = Introspective
(I know this is not the mainstream view, but this is my position on the matter, according to the following, from the notes of "Please Understand Me II")
How does one observe one's mental process (T) or emotional process (F) using the same processes (T or F)? One cannot observe one's eye without a reflective surface.
Hence, Introspection/Intuition = Self reflection, which requires an internal sounding board.
See above discussion.With this definitions, I hardly see any of the 8-9-1 types and N being compatible.
8-9-1 is Unconsciousness to the inside, no introspection
N is Introspection per definition, listening to the inner voice, IN-tuition.
Or, for example, you can read the PDB debate about typing Maximus from Gladiator - a character we all know well - a very clear E1 (>90%) and a clear TJ, but split into half between ENTJ and ISTx.
A cursory look will show you how it's really a matter of definitions.
This still doesn't change the fact members of personality database typed E1s predominantly as IxxJs and and mostly as INxJs. Why did they do that? Why isn't that any more valid than the correlation table you rely on?
Moreover please note that they typed him as tritype 162, which according to my understanding is Ni-Te-Fe = xNTJ.
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